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Showtime · Oct 10, 2011, 01:12 AM // 01:12

Not sure if there will be any updates and only checked front page, but found this spear. I also had others if I can find the screens.

r5 SPEAR 11-20 no inscription slot

Dzjudz · Oct 10, 2011, 01:55 AM // 01:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Showtime

Not sure if there will be any updates and only checked front page, but found this spear. I also had others if I can find the screens.

r5 SPEAR 11-20 no inscription slot

Pretty funny that you only checked the front page, seeing the post before you

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Bright Star Shine · Oct 10, 2011, 09:29 AM // 09:29

I haven't seen Luny post on here, or logg on in the game for months now, so I don't think this thread is being maintained anymore... Someone told me he's having comp issues...

LicensedLuny · Oct 26, 2011, 05:23 AM // 05:23

List updated up to and including post 332, page 17, Feb. 1, 2011.
List updated up to and including post 383, page 20, Oct. 26, 2011.

Req. 7 Sword:
- Inherent Sources: 14-20 (claim by Yawgmoth,) 14-19 (pic from fallenangel)
- Inherent Sources: 14-20 (pic from LicensedLuny)
Req. 6 Sword:
- Inscribable Sources: 13-19 (pic from The Mountain)
- Inscribable Sources: 14-19 (pic from Aesir The Warrior)
Req. 3 Sword:
- Inscribable Sources: 10-13 (pic from Showtime)
- Inscribable Sources: 11-14 (pic from The Mountain)
Req. 2 Sword:
- Inscribable Sources: 8-10 (pic from LicensedLuny)
- Inscribable Sources: 9-12 (pic from Aesir The Warrior)
Req. 1 Sword:
- Inscribable Sources:
- Inscribable Sources: 8-11 (pic from Raven Wing)
Req. 0 Sword:
- Inscribable Sources: 7-10 (pic from ubikuo)
- Inscribable Sources: 8-10 (pic from ubikuo)
Req. 6 Axe:
- pic of r6 6-24 inherent from Leonhart on the old thread. no info on pre/post NF release drop.
- Inherent Sources: 6-23 (pic from LicensedLuny)
- Inherent Sources: 6-24 (pic from A Perfect Slayer)
Req. 4 Axe:
- Inherent Sources: 6-19 (pic from Red Fireball)
- Inherent Sources: 7-19 (pic from Nerel)
Req. 7 Hammer:
- Inscribable Sources: 17-30 (pic from LicensedLuny)
- Inscribable Sources: 18-32 (pic from Ling)
Req. 5 Hammer:
- Inherent Sources: 15-26 (pic from Raven Wing)
- Inherent Sources: 16-27 (pic from Zen00)
Req. 3 Hammer:
- Inherent Sources: 13-19 (pic from obastable)
- Inherent Sources: 13-20 (pic from Raven Wing)
Req. 1 Hammer:
- Inherent Sources: 11-15 (pic from calou)
- Inherent Sources: 11-16 (pic from tommaso)
Req. 0 Hammer:
- Inscribable Sources: 9-13 (pic from Gondrakif)
- Inscribable Sources: 10-14 (pic from Raven Wing)
Req. 7 Bow:
- Inscribable Sources: 13-24 (pic from obastable)
- Inscribable Sources: 14-25 (pic from LicensedLuny)
- Pre NF:
- Pre NF: 14-27 (pic from arbiter)
Req. 6 Bow:
- Inherent Sources: 13-24 (pic from YornStar)
- Inherent Sources: 14-24 (pic from Raven Wing)
Req. 4 Bow:
- Inscribable Sources: 11-18 (pic from End)
- Inscribable Sources: 12-19 (pic from The Mountain)
Req. 8 Daggers:
- Inscribable Sources: 7-16 (pic from LicensedLuny)
- Inscribable Sources: 7-16 (pic from LicensedLuny)
  - 7-17 (link to wartower.de pic from 2008 provided by Dimmuborgir Satan. The actual existence of these is debated, and no newer proof of their existence is known here.)
Req. 6 Daggers:
- Inherent Sources:
- Inherent Sources: 6-13 (pic from Oofus)
Req. 4 Daggers:
- Inherent Sources: 5-9 (pic from BuD)
- Inherent Sources: 5-11 (pic from Red Fireball)
Req. 5 Spear:
- Inscribable Sources: 11-19 (pic from Red Fireball)
- Inscribable Sources: 12-20 (pic from TheGizzy)
Req. 4 Spear:
- Inscribable Sources:
- Inscribable Sources: 11-19 (pic from tommaso)
Req. 2 Spear:
- Inscribable Sources: 9-14 (pic from Raven Wing)
- Inscribable Sources: 10-15 (pic from ubikuo)
Req. 3 Scythe:
- Inscribable Sources: 9-22 (pic from Raven Wing)
- Inscribable Sources: 9-24 (pic from tommaso)
Req. 4 Shield:
- Inherent Sources: 12 ar (claim by Yawgmoth)
- Inherent Sources: 12 ar (pic from Oofus)
Req. 5 Staff:
- Inscribable Sources: 16/8/10-16 (pic from LicensedLuny)
- Inscribable Sources:
  - 16/8/10-16 (pic from LicensedLuny)
  - 15/8/10-17 (pic from Raven Wing)
- Inherent Sources:
  - 15/9/10-16 (claim by Yawgmoth)
  - 16/8/10-17 (pic from jimbo32)
  - 17/8/9-16 (pic from apoggy)
  - 15/9/10-16 (claim by Yawgmoth)
  - 17/8/10-17 (pic from Raven Wing)
Req. 2 Wand:
- Inscribable Sources:
- Inscribable Sources: 8-12 (pic from Raven Wing)

Endnote addition:

"This list hasn't been updated recently."
I don't always have as much time for GW and Guru as I'd like, so yes the OP here does get out of date. Sorry. However, PLEASE do feel free to keep reporting findings! As has happened in the past, someone else may take over maintaining this thread or I might get an update done myself. The data you submit is interesting and helpful to folks even if it doesn't appear in the original list in a timely fashion.

i am the ownage · Oct 30, 2011, 08:14 PM // 20:14

heres some of my low requirment drops that ive gotten
shield i believe to be pre-nf since it was something a friend gave me that only played before that.
and shortbow i got as a drop on 10/30/2011 from a kournian seer

Raven Wing · Nov 05, 2011, 08:51 AM // 08:51

Since you have no req1 wand I'll put 1 I found.
And thanks for reviving this thread, I think its interesting

LicensedLuny · Nov 05, 2011, 05:50 PM // 17:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven Wing

... thanks for reviving this thread, I think its interesting

You're welcome! (to you and everyone else I've heard that from!)

I think it's interesting, too! I'm very sorry for any loss of interest or participation due to the OP being out of date. I was away from GW for months, and if I'm not playing GW regularly then I lose track of Guru, too. No offense intended.

The whole reason I have the OP of this thread is that I was willing and able to update it when Ari (who first posted it) was not. The mods around here have magic-ninja-hax tricks they can do with threads and posts which can result in the original post changing owner. I first updated the list in the OP as a reply post to this thread. With Ari's permission, one of the mods was able to merge my reply post and the OP to make it look like it does now and leave me as owner instead of Ari (which lets me edit it.)

So, in the event I go missing again and someone else wants to take over updating and knows enough bbCode (or can figure it out from editing an existing list) then SPEAK UP!

Red Fireball and I were chatting in game the other day, and he told me he'd be interested to help keep it updated if I wasn't going to anymore. So that's one candidate. For the time being, I expect to be able to work on it. If I'm not able to in the future then it's fine with me if someone else wants to.

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Since I'm at it, I'll leave notes here about my update process in case anyone ever wants it. If you take over the OP, then you get final say on process and format. I'm leaving this here in case a new OP owner wants to keep it the way I have it now. I like the list as easy to check quickly when I'm going through drops in game as possible; that's why I set it up with so much formatting.

If you're working on a new version and want to keep some or all of the existing OP content and format, start a reply quoting the OP (the QUOTE button in the lower right corner of the post.) Remove the [QUOTE=LicensedLuny;5162589] bit at the very beginning and the [/QUOTE] from the very end. Now you have a copy of the OP with all existing text and formatting code to work from.

Important Note - copying a link (in most Windows browsers, right click the link and choose something like "Copy link" from the menu) to any post from the "#<post number>" link at the upper right corner gives you this kind of format URL.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5592349&postcount=385

That type of link directs to a page showing ONLY that particular post. I find pages that show the normal whole thread and simply have it auto-scroll to the post in question are much easier as a reader/browser. So to get such a link, simply change the "showpost" part of the copied URL to "showthread" instead, like so ...

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5592349&postcount=385

I try to keep all the links to specific posts in the OP in the second style. It's pretty easy when editing. When you think you're all done with the OP update, simply search for the string showpost and change any you see to showthread instead before you save the changes.

So, my steps ...

Open two browser windows with the original post (one for reference and one for editing) and another browser window to the most recent update reply (where the change log from last time lives.) In one of the two OP windows, go into advanced edit mode on that post.
Post a reply as a placeholder for the change log.
Change the first line to have the URL of the placeholder you just posted, the post and page numbers, and the current date. It's the first line at the top and looks like this ...
[CENTER][I]List updated up to and including [url="http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5586884&postcount=383"]post 383, page 20, Oct. 26, 2011.[/url][/I]
*****[/CENTER]
Read any replies since the last update. Check any item posted in a new reply against the record in the existing OP. Any new records (or pictures to replace claims) get updated in the OP.
Updating an entry in the OP, you'll see lines like this ...
[*]Inherent Sources: [b]15-22[/b] [i]([url="http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5351784&postcount=302"]pic from LicensedLuny[/url])[/i]
Between the [b][/b] tags is the basic damage, etc. of the item. You change that as needed. Next change the URL in the quotes in the [url="..."]pic from user[/url] to the URL of the post with the new record (and remember to switch showpost to showthread as mentioned above.) Finally change the username to the new record's poster.
Once the OP is updated, it's time to put the change log in the reply you posted as a place holder. There's an edit history accessible from your post by the URL near the bottom left corner of your post that looks something like this.
Last edited by LicensedLuny; Oct 26, 2011 at 03:13 AM.. Reason: updates, as needed ...
That "Last edited by" will be a link if it's your own post (or you have mod rights.) Click it. Now compare the new version you just finished to the last version. The differences will be highlighted.
I build the change log by pasting lines from that version comparison report into the placeholder post I left at the beginning of this process. I have to add or adjust a few [list][/list] and [*] tags to make it look the way it does in my versions. For the most part, it's simply copy/pasting though.

Be careful with cases where there's more than one record. Staffs are the most common example, but sometimes martial weapons might have one record for highest lowend damage and another record for highest maxend damage in their range. An example of what I mean shows up in r7 scythes. There's a 10-35 and a 9-37. For such cases, list all the records with at least one stat maxed in a sub-list. If the sub-list isn't already in place in the OP list, then you can build one by adding a new set of [list][/list] tags around the entries that share the record in question.

vB isn't case-sensitive about the tags, so [list][/list] works the same as [LIST][/LIST] if you'd rather type the formatting tags by hand.

I swear it's nowhere near as complicated to update as it might seem at first. Once you get the hang of it/practice a little, it's really easy!

i dealer i · Nov 06, 2011, 09:09 AM // 09:09

After talking to Luny, imma add my low Q Axes again..

Not sure if the uninscr ones dropped before or after NF release..

regards
~Aris

LicensedLuny · Nov 17, 2011, 04:04 PM // 16:04

Thanks for the 7-x examples Aris! I recently saw this after someone kindly directed me to a very old thread. I thought it worth posting here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirJackassIII, Nov. 12, 2006

Scythes (like axes) can have a higher minimum damage as long as the max damage isn't the maximum. (like 7-23 Axes, Scythes have 10-33 for example)

So let's see more 7 min. damage axes and 10 min. damage scythes!

On a different note, I'm considering reformatting the OP in order to also track the lowest stat(s) by req, not just the highest. I realize it may not be particularly useful information to folks, but I've spoken with a few players who only read (never post) here who seem to be interested in such.

If I can get the low end of the range in the OP, formatted in a way that does not make it any harder to check while playing, does anyone strongly object to tracking this here, too? It seems silly to start a separate thread about it.

Cheers folks!

Firefighter Fred · Nov 17, 2011, 09:57 PM // 21:57

+1 to the low damage range idea. I might even be able to post useful things for that data set :P

Also, is anyone interested in damage ranges for specific raritys? (ie. gold daggers have x-y range, purple have a-b range...etc) Or is that too ambitious?

LicensedLuny · Nov 17, 2011, 10:10 PM // 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firefighter Fred

Also, is anyone interested in damage ranges for specific raritys? (ie. gold daggers have x-y range, purple have a-b range...etc) Or is that too ambitious?

I saw your thread somewhere else in here that got closed and redirected to this one. It seemed like you were asking specifically about gold-text stuff, and we've never had that gold-only restriction for the reports. (At least, we haven't since I've had the OP. I don't recall Ari restricting reports to gold-only either, but I'm not positive.) I suppose we (read "you, Fred!") could look back through the reports to find the gold examples, write up a list with details and pics, and then we could ask a mod to let you take over the second post where Ari intended the gallery to live when he started this. Up for it?

Myself, I'm not opposed to tracking "best golds" in addition to just "best stats" here on this thread ... if we can figure out a way to keep the format useful. I like it very easy to check as I play to see if I need to bother taking a screenshot for a new record before I pick something up. These newfangled tables in Guru may yet prove useful!

Red Fireball · Nov 29, 2011, 11:40 PM // 23:40

highest reqs for certain damage/lowest damage for certain req and lowest stats for certain rarities would be nice to know about as well. I still believe low req is the most useful information about all this and should therefore stay focused on, furthermore I think the interest in the lowest dmg for certain reqs is too small, means, we´d not get a list that would in any way be close to the "real" numbers. I wouldn´t mind adding such here tho, even tho I´d stay focused on low req stuff, whereas lowest dmg for the rarities would be quite interesting as well.

anyway: got a gold oldschool 12-16 q4 caster sword, screen in post 62 by someone, who owned before I bought obviously. would be pretty low req and pretty low dmg for a gold sword and is also low req

Kiki Go Boom · Dec 09, 2011, 11:36 PM // 23:36

Here is a screenshot of Q8 7-16 inherent dagger. Just got it today.

superraptors · Dec 15, 2011, 01:45 PM // 13:45

found today

Dharma Sparklestone · Dec 18, 2011, 03:50 AM // 03:50

I got a q1 spear 8-11, hardly max for its req but nothing was posted. They do exist if that was in question

Hatamoto · Dec 20, 2011, 01:30 AM // 01:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by LicensedLuny

So let's see more 7 min. damage axes and 10 min. damage scythes!

Ok! Does Not Meet The Low Req But Its 15^50 At Least! =D

KZaske · Dec 27, 2011, 07:22 PM // 19:22

Just to be sure I get this, you are looking for screen shots of low requirement high damage weapons? If so, here is a pre-factions FDS that dropped for me in the Crystal Desert.

Dzjudz · Dec 28, 2011, 03:18 AM // 03:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by KZaske

Just to be sure I get this, you are looking for screen shots of low requirement high damage weapons? If so, here is a pre-factions FDS that dropped for me in the Crystal Desert.

Exactly. As you can see though, the pre-nf q7 max sword was already covered

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LicensedLuny · Jan 07, 2012, 07:48 AM // 07:48

Ok, so in getting ready to change the OP of this thread to track the lowest stats by req. in addition to the highest stats by req., I've been trying to take screenshots whenever I get really crappy stuff for the past couple months. Here are the lowest-stat examples by req. I've collected to start with. I will try to get the OP redesigned next.

Click thumbnails for full size versions (Some of these are rather large images.)

LicensedLuny · Jan 07, 2012, 11:38 AM // 11:38

List updated up to and including post 383, page 20, Oct. 26, 2011.
List updated up to and including post 399, page 20, Jan. 7, 2012.

Major Changes

The OP (and thread title) is adjusted now to track not only the highest stats by req but also the lowest stats by req. (i.e. We had been tracking the shiny end of the range; we're now tracking the shitty end, too.) That added another level of bullet-lists and a lot of length to the OP. We'll see how folks like it. There does (or at least, did) seem enough people interested in tracking that side, too. I'm hopeful the list does not become so long and/or complicated that it's no longer a useful resource to most folks.

Feedback and suggestions for ways to improve it are welcome!
Question - would it be better to hide each weapon's list in a spoiler button? I can see that making it easier to scroll around and find just what you're looking for, but it would be additional hassle if you're checking more than one weapon's records (because then you'd have to scroll back up to the button to "hide" that weapon's section before moving on to some other weapon's section.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firefighter Fred

Also, is anyone interested in damage ranges for specific raritys? (ie. gold daggers have x-y range, purple have a-b range...etc) Or is that too ambitious?

For each req. of each item we now have a question if it still drops in gold-text. That should help find the limit on lowest req. golds (a question I read in your closed thread and have heard you mention in game.) I'd like to give it some time and see how the addition of tracking the floor limits in addition to the ceilings goes before we attempt the range by color you mention. I'm not saying it's out of the question, but adding a track-by-color level to the lists in the OP would make it about four times as long as it is now. Let's see how making it ~2.5x longer from this most recent addition goes first.

New "Max for Req." Records From Posted Replies

Req. 8 Axe:
- Inscribable Sources: 6-27 (pic from N E D M)
- Inscribable Sources:
  - 6-27 (pic from N E D M)
  - 7-21 (pic from i dealer i)
- Pre NF: 6-28 (pic from bsoltan)
- Pre NF:
  - 6-28 (pic from bsoltan)
  - 7-20 (pic from i dealer i)
Req. 7 Axe:
- Pre NF: 6-28 (pic from system.fan)
- Pre NF:
  - 6-28 (pic from system.fan)
  - 7-20 (pic from Hatamoto)
Req. 5 Axe:
- Pre NF:
- Pre NF: 7-20 (pic from i dealer i)
Req. 5 Bow:
- Inscribable Sources: 13-21 (pic from Red Fireball)
- Inscribable Sources: 13-22 (pic from i am the ownage)
Req. 8 Daggers:
- Inherent Sources: 7-16 (claim by Yawgmoth,) 7-15 (pic from LicensedLuny)
- Inherent Sources: 7-16 (pic from Kiki Go Boom)
Req. 1 Spear:
- Inscribable Sources:
- Inscribable Sources: 8-12 (pic from LicensedLuny)
Req. 1 Wand:
- Inherent Sources:
- Inherent Sources: 7-11 (pic from Raven Wing)